Andrew Morrison, Voice Actor, Podcast Host, Coffee Enthusiast

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After I got head trauma like I just busted the glass and we told them what happened.

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I've got a guest on from outside of Atlanta, georgia.

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Please welcome voice actor.

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Podcast host.

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It is Andrew Morrison.

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Andrew,

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hello, buddy, thanks for having me on.

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Oh, this is awesome.

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Thank you so much for agreeing to be here.

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Yeah, I found you, as I'm, you know, new in my journey in voice acting, and this community just keeps growing.

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I keep finding people, and then I found that you were actually in Augusta, although you've now moved.

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I didn't realize that until until I reached out and I was like hey, you can come to the house and you're like, ah, it's going to be a bit of a drive but I haven't changed it yet on purpose.

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So I moved maybe like two, two and a half years ago and I kept you know on Facebook where you get, where those fake accounts will make accounts of like your friends and then try to be like, hey, like a join the Illuminati or whatever, I started getting like an influx of those and so I would just ask him OK, well, where do I live?

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And they would say Augusta, and I would be like, nope, you don't know me.

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Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

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That's a great way to kind of beat the scammers.

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That's awesome.

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So there's a valuable tip for you, like just right off the bat.

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Thank you, Andrew.

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I appreciate that Life lesson learned.

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Boom Done.

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Show over, andrew, so you're not from August lot, but I would say most of my life I spent around Douglasville.

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Okay, so I lived in when my parents moved back to Georgia.

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We lived in Marietta for a little bit but we had a lot of family in Douglasville.

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So we moved to Douglasville and then I went to Sandy Springs to go to college and then I moved back to Douglasville, got married, had kids, did that whole thing, and then we split and then I moved to Macon for work and then I moved to Augusta and then I moved back to Macon and then I ended up moving back to Douglasville.

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Okay, Okay, full circle.

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Well, the goal was to get as close to my kids as possible, because I was driving like three hours one way from Augusta just to see them, and so now I'm like five minutes down the street.

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It's great.

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Oh, that's awesome, that's awesome.

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There's nothing to be said for sure.

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I, for a while, when I was working in radio in Birmingham, uh, my family was still here in Augusta, and so there was like six months where I was there and they were here.

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So every other weekend it was like it's a four hour one way drive but you're like you gain an hour when you go from Birmingham to, uh, augusta because of the time zone, but then you lose an hour going from Augusta to Birmingham because it was, it was so weird, it was so weird.

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But yeah, no, that's that's awesome to be that close.

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Um, so, so what, uh?

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So what was life like for you?

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Were you always?

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I mean, you got a great voice and now you're using it?

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You're using it for, uh, you know it's God intended purpose, uh, was that one of those things that when you were growing up, it was like, oh, you got a great voice, you should be on radio or you should do that, or do, or were you with a guy that made the funny voices in class, or how did you get into voice acting?

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Not necessarily so.

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Um, I most of my early twenties and teen, and like late teens, I was working in and out of restaurants and I uh went and attempted to get a culinary degree and turns out that can only get you a bump of $2 an hour, uh, at certain restaurants.

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And so I was continued working on that path and tried to do entrepreneurship.

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For a while.

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I ended up in a coffee house that turned out to be a roaster, and so I started roasting coffee for a little bit and then my roaster ended up retiring and I didn't have the funds to keep everything together without contracting another roaster, and so that ended up going down and so I ended up becoming a manager at another restaurant.

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And I mean, every once in a while I would get people that in the restaurant telling me, oh, you should do radio or something like that, and I didn't even think of it.

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But, um, I got an advertisement for one of the pay to play sites and it said get a job as a voice actor.

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I was like I'd love to get a job, like thinking that it was like a like a job career, and so I'm going through and filling out the information.

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I'm like demos, I have no idea what that is, uh, experience none.

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And then at the end it was like $500.

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And I was like I'm working in a restaurant, I don't have a spare $500 right now.

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But I was really, really curious because, like just a spark happened where I was like there is a new industry here and I at least got to figure out what it is.

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And so I went down the rabbit hole and I joined a bunch of Facebook groups and I watched a ton of YouTube videos and I started listening to a bunch of podcasts and at the time a really good barrier entry for me was audiobooks.

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And so I started working on audiobooks and I started finding different video game auditions and, very, very fortunately, one of the first projects I got to work on was a DLC for Fallout 4.

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And and then, uh, cause after 76 came out, like Bethesda just started building more maps for four, and so I got to play a ghoul in that.

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And then I did a bunch of audio books and then it went from there to gaining a bunch, uh, getting enough money to start getting demos produced, to start marketing myself, to start contacting agents and contacting producers and just scratching and clawing.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's you know.

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I know I see it because these are the groups that I'm in now is I see the hey, you can have a six-figure career in 90 days.

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That is absolutely not what this is.

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It is scratching and clawing and contacting and emailing and building relationships.

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It's not about, like some is definitely not a get rich quick scheme.

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You know, absolutely not, and people see surface numbers but they don't see the actual numbers.

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So like, say, audiobooks because I keep seeing on tiktK all the time where somebody is like, did you know that you can get paid $300 to record an audio book each hour?

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Well, that's $300 per finished hour.

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If you have the equipment to be able to book a $300 job, most of them are around like $100 per finished hour and that's finished audio Right, one hour takes, when you're first getting started, probably like five to seven hours to do one hour of audio, because you're going to make mistakes and you got to engineer it and you got to make sure that it's up to the producer specs.

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And then, once you get quicker, it's still like three to four hours per hour of audio.

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And so at that point you're hunting down jobs to maybe make $25 an hour, which still sounds good in this economy.

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But, like, once you account for how much time it took you to find that job and how much money and equipment you put into equipment and it's.

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It is not a get rich quick thing, no, you've got to really love it to do it.

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It's fruitful.

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If you put the time in, it could be a very, very fruitful career and very, very fulfilling.

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But but you're not out the gate making six pictures.

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Yeah, yeah, definitely not, definitely not 90 days or whatever.

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Yeah, it's uh, but yeah, right, it is.

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It is a an amazing career, is amazing If you're passionate for it.

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You know the uh.

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You know one of the biggest things that I've learned in my life, you know, going to trainings and coaching and things like that.

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You know it's it's voice acting, it's acting you, you, you have to like acting or else you're not going to be able to do this.

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Because the thing is is, you're going to have directors, you're going to have, you know, either a directed session and they're like, okay, I need you to put more of this feeling into that, and if you don't know what that means and how to take direction, you can't change.

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And then you're not, you're not going to do what they want you to and you're not going to get enough, because then, just as much as this relationship, the word's going to get, I was like, yeah, so rob can't take direction.

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So then you, you unfortunately get blackballed with you know, other casting directors, because they all know each other.

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It's a, it's a fairly small community.

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It's very supportive.

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You know, if you're, if you're approaching it right, but if you're, you know, like I said, if you come in with like, hey, all right, I'm the thing and I'm going to do this and blah, blah, blah, and you're going to love me, lose to my voice.

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It's like, well, you got a great voice, but you can't do anything with it right yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know I had a session yesterday where, uh, it was a 30 minute session and it was for one line.

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It was just what, like one tag, and so they got what they wanted within like the first, like three to five minutes, but they were like we booked you for 30 minutes, so the rest of the 25 minutes was just me giving them different option.

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Each one had to be like very specific and very different from the last, and it was just 30 minutes of me giving very different takes of one line, and that kind of improv skill comes in handy more times than I can count.

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Yeah, yeah, did you do a lot of?

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I know you said you worked restaurants, but did you?

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Was that a passion for yours, like when you were in high school or anything like that Acting doing the drama club or I did a little bit of theater.

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I did theater and I did video production when I was in high school and I've always been a very theatrical person, like I mean, I'm the first person to throw musicals on when I get in the car, like when Hamilton came out, I was one of the obsessives before it became trendy.

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Yeah, nice.

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That's great.

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The theatrics are just like.

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I enjoy them.

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That's great, that's great.

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Is there a certain well, you said musical and you say Hamilton Is a certain like.

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Do you remember your first like role or your first, uh, you know like, did you have it on stage?

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Did you do on stage work as well?

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no, I've never, done on stage.

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I mean, unless you count now, like I've done a little bit of like background work because I'm in Atlanta and so I contacted a couple of casting companies just to kind of supplement income because I was curious.

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I like I'd like to do background work and maybe find myself on camera or doing in person commercials, like I'd like to dip my toe in in different parts of entertainment.

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Yeah, and so I've.

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I've been exploring that but like voiceover is still my bread and butter, but I haven't.

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I wasn't like I didn't grow up as like a theater troupe or anything like that.

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What were you into when you were a kid then?

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um, experiences um, I I was, so I did spend a lot of time in hawaii because my dad was stationed there and so I was a member of the honolulu boy choir.

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But I mean, I I was a snorkeling guy, I was a whale watching guy, I was a go and explore and hike and and track and and create adventures.

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I love adventures oh, that's and so I was always ready for, like whatever the next adventure would be yeah you, you find yourself that you're kind of a spontaneous person like that, like, hey, let's get the car, let's drive to the beach.

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You're like well, the beach is for instead of going.

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The beach is four hours away.

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You're like yes, it's very much so, actually, when I now now I've got it to a science, but when I was first getting into creating businesses, that was one of the hardest parts was structure, because I am a very spontaneous person.

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Now, that makes networking and sales very easy because it brings forth a lot of ideas.

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Wait, what if I market this way?

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What if I do this?

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What if I do this?

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What if I do this?

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But like consistency was when I was maybe 25, was like something hard to kind of get fine-tuned.

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Yeah, yeah, that's really cool though and it's cool that you found your way into that, because we were talking before we started recording that you individually market yourself to these production companies and places that are looking for voice actors and stuff like that, instead of going kind of the plug-and-play automated-type route, which there's advantages to that.

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There's also advantages to that personal touch that you know that every person you talk to it's your words, you're talking, you're not, you know, pulling a chat, a chat GPT on them and copy and paste type stuff.

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Well, I mean, cause there is the number numbers game of marketing, because I mean, no matter what kind of business you're in, me being a voiceover artist, it is me running a business and me offering my services to different people, and the only way to get in front of people is to show people hey, here's my stuff, hire me, Like I mean not quite as salesy as that, but like you got to show people your stuff.

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And so I choose the more time-consuming route of crafting each individual email individually, the more time consuming route of crafting each individual email individually, because I am of the opinion that a lot of people, especially in today's generation, can smell bullshit a mile away and they can tell when you're using some kind of automated system or something along those lines.

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Now I am working on figuring out how to use AI tools and new automations and stuff like that, because I believe the AI boom is similar to the way email was in the early 2000s, where people were like, oh, this email thing isn't going to happen, it's just going to go away and we're going to keep sending our faxes and whatever.

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And now where are we?

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So I mean, I definitely believe it's here to stay and I want to figure out how to utilize it to its fullest benefit, without taking away from creatives.

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But for right now, as I'm ramping up my marketing and as I'm trying to expand my business and as I'm contacting very, very large companies, I feel like the best way to contact those larger companies is by being genuine, and the most genuine way to do that is to send their email individually.

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So if I want to get in front of 100 people in a day, then I'm sending 100 individual emails a day and it takes late nights and I mean I'll schedule them, I'll work late at night doing that part of it and then just schedule them to go out the following morning, so that way I'm at the top of their inbox.

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But but I right now I do spend a lot of like sitting in my office like scheduling out emails and crafting things and figuring out how to get into in front of people.

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I love that, though, and and I'm sure that's probably refreshing to a lot of people too, because they're like you said there are tools out there and then people are getting the same same, similar email, you know, and they feel bombarded by it.

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And then you know something that's more genuine, personal, kind of cuts through.

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You know, hopefully that's, that's the hope, but, but I feel like people realize that I know I've done some stuff reaching out to people and they're like, man, I get these emails all the time like this You're the first person to actually send me a voice note.

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That's amazing, thank you, you know, it's like that's what made it stand out, you know, so, um, so in, in, with your voice, acting, stuff like this.

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You're also a podcast host.

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That is a vo adjacent very podcast, which probably helps your networking you, you know, it's kind of kind of like hey, I'm going to tie a bunch of things in this ribbon to to kind of make them all work.

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Uh, what's the?

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The podcast is the voice over coffee shop, right?

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Yes, the voice of a coffee shop.

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That's correct.

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And how long have you been doing that?

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Um since February of 2021.

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Oh, wow, okay, Okay.

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So you got a couple of months on me for the start.

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I started in June of 2021.

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Oh, wow, okay, okay, so you got a couple months on me.

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I started in June of 2021.

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Yeah, so what brought?

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I assume that what brought that about was the fact that you're you're now doing voiceover, so you're wanting to, to learn more, and so it was an education for you.

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Or had you done podcasts prior to that?

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No, that was my first podcast and I mean, even if I'm I don't want to say I'm ashamed of my earlier episode, but I definitely had to get my footing.

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But no, when the pandemic happened in 2020, like, a lot of the voiceover related conferences were like only remote or they were non-existent.

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And I had a lot of questions and I really really liked people, and so I just started sending Zoom invites to people, whether it was somebody who was an actor who I had seen on TV or somebody who I was proficient within, like the Facebook groups.

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I was curious and I wanted to get to know people, and so I had one point where I maybe had like 15 zoom meetings in a week.

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It was crazy.

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And so I had sent a um a message to a animation coach who who is big in animation and he used to work on the Simpsons.

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His name is Everett Oliver.

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And so.

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I sent him a message and he was like well, here's my business consultation for him.

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It's $150 an hour and I'm like well, that that's valuable, but that's not what this is.

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I really just want to get to know who you are.

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Your name circles my, my, goes around my circles all the time and I just want to like meet you.

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And he said call me.

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And I said okay, and so I called him.

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He's like what do you want?

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I was like well, I just want to get to know you.

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And blah, blah, blah.

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And so when we finally sat down and we had a zoom meeting and we talked, he was like if you're just there to gain knowledge, why don't you turn it into a podcast?

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And so I wanted to figure out what format I wanted, and so I watched a bunch of voiceover podcasts and a lot of voice actors were getting asked the same 10 questions over and over and over again and I had follow-up questions.

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And one of my favorite speaking environments was when I was working in coffee shops or roasting coffee.

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Was that coffee shop environment where you're actually getting to know somebody and you're sitting over coffee and there's no like fluff?

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It's not a show, it's just a conversation, and so I like Bob Bergen.

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Bob Bergen is the voice of Porky Pig, but when I brought him onto the show, like yes, he talked about Porky Pig as like how he got into the industry, but I didn't once ask him about it.

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I wanted to know about his current dubbing work.

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I don't want to know something that somebody did 15, 20 years ago, because, one, there is already enough content around that if they've been interviewed and, two, that's not going to be relevant to me.

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I don't have questions regarding that.

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I've got questions regarding how your marketing is to yourself, how you're positioning yourself, how you are being more creative, how you are building your characters, how changes in the marketplaces have affected how you think as an actor.

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That's what I want to know, and so it became the voiceover coffee shop.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome, man, and you're up to like, is it like 77, 78 episodes, something like that?

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So, 79, 79 came.

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I believe 79 was last Friday and then 80 will be this Friday.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome.

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So you've been doing it weekly or do you take time off?

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Do you do it in seasons?

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Um, I, I do it sporadically.

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Uh.

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I tried to do it weekly for a long time but being a full-time voiceover artist and entrepreneur, that is very time consuming.

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Being a father of two is sometimes time consuming.

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And then when I do go to conferences, when I go spend time with my partner, like it's, I try to do it as often as I can.

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I put out at least once a month, a couple of months, I'll put out four, but I'm trying to get back into the consistency of it and trying to put them out every week, even if I have to prerecord a couple and then schedule them out.

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But, um, but, but overall, um once a week to once every two weeks.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, you know, that was one of the hardest lessons I learned, as when I started the podcast, cause I was like, all right, I'm gonna do something every week, every week, and trying to find guests and booking guests and recording and then getting it done and then doing all the you know, the marketing that you have to do with it and the graphic, because I'm doing all the graphics, I'm doing all the editing, I'm doing all the everything and then putting it out.

00:19:45.679 --> 00:19:51.557
And I felt so almost burned out after, like the first season.

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I do in seasons I usually take, you know, the end of December through, like February off.

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That way, I know, that way.

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I hate this is I'm going to do this and if I can do every week, great.

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But that's the thing I've learned is like if, if it's not there or or if something's going on it's taking me away from it, it's OK, people still listen and they would rather it be genuine instead of forced, and if I have to force a conversation or, you know, struggle to meet a deadline, I'm the only one.

00:20:22.301 --> 00:20:23.893
That's whole, I'm the one holding all the keys.

00:20:23.893 --> 00:20:33.240
It's this, is this podcast, is is me, and so give myself a little grace, as much as I tell other people to give themselves grace, I wasn't taking my own advice.

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Yeah, and I wanted to make, because a lot of my stuff is entrepreneur or voiceover focus.

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I wasn't taking my own advice.

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Yeah, and I wanted to make, because a lot of my stuff is entrepreneur or voiceover focused.

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I didn't want to just try to pull like any voiceover artists that I can find off of Twitter or something like that.

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You know, I wanted to find people that I have genuine interest in, that I believe I can have honest conversations with, and people that I have questions for, and a lot of that comes organic.

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Now I have a list of guests that I intend to bring on, but before I was making those friends and building those relationships with people, I didn't want it to be just like a forced I need to get a guest.

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Like where do I find a guest?

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Like I didn't want it to become that, you know, and I mean it took me a long time to figure out how to be a host.

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And it took me a long time to figure out how to be a host because in my first couple, of episodes like I was putting all of the all of the Moxie on them I'm trying to think of another word, but everything on them and like trying to let their personality shine through instead of becoming a host and actually having a conversation with people.

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And that took a lot longer to learn than I thought it would, until a friend of mine came to me and was like hey, this was a really interesting person, but your interview was really boring and I think that a lot of that was you.

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Oh, wow, yeah, but you know that's what it takes.

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Sometimes it takes that friend to get be real honest with you and like, hey, I'm telling you cause I love you, but you know you back it off a little bit.

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Let let these people you know tell their story.

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You know, that's what that's.

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What I try to do with with this is to be just a guide you know, to allow you to tell you know and how they and how they are now moving through life and things like that.

00:22:29.076 --> 00:22:30.238
So so, no, stopping for the voiceover coffee shop then?

00:22:30.238 --> 00:22:34.442
Absolutely not, no, I mean, I interviewed people when I had stitches in my head, like I know.

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I do not like my like, like I do not Like Daniel Ross, the voice of Donald Duck.

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That interview I have a cut right here with stitches just hanging in my head.

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What happened?

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I do not, so I'm going to give you the truth.

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My partner and I went on to North Georgia, helen.

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We went and got a cabin in Helen, georgia for our anniversary and we went out on the back deck where there was a patio and it was on the side of a mountain, so over the deck is like a drop, and we closed the door and the door locked and our phones and stuff were inside.

00:23:12.136 --> 00:23:23.500
So we were locked on the deck of this cabin with no way back inside, and so I thought I was going to be smart and there was a grill on the deck and so I used the grill.

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I was going to use the grill spatula to try to pry the door open and it was serrated and so, trying to like slip it up into the lock, it came back and it hit me in the head and so I had a serrated real spatula.

00:23:35.653 --> 00:23:44.979
Oh my gosh, Holy cow, which causes a whole new problem with not being able to get to the phone, because now you have a head trauma.

00:23:45.058 --> 00:23:48.760
Well, no, after I got head trauma like I just busted the glass and we told them what happened.

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I was like I don't want to damage the property, I don't want to break the glass of this door Like this is like an Airbnb sort of situation, so I don't want to break the glass of this door Like this is like an Airbnb sort of situation.

00:23:56.885 --> 00:24:03.045
So I don't want to like bust the glass, but, like, once you're profusely bleeding from your head, you're going to break the glass.

00:24:04.692 --> 00:24:07.137
Wow, and all good.

00:24:07.137 --> 00:24:08.101
Now all recovered.

00:24:08.101 --> 00:24:08.863
I don't see.

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I don't see any scars or anything like that.

00:24:12.939 --> 00:24:13.662
That was like two years ago.

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Okay, wow, holy cow, that's a great story, though I mean geez, it was fun it was.

00:24:23.298 --> 00:24:24.119
It was fun after.

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Correct, right, right, once these, once the stitches got in and the bleeding had stopped and like, then you can look back and laugh oh, remember that that's awesome.

00:24:34.800 --> 00:24:37.925
Um, so what?

00:24:37.925 --> 00:24:38.307
Uh?

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Oh, remember that that's awesome.

00:24:40.009 --> 00:24:44.951
So, what other than podcasts and your?

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marketing.

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What?

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What's bringing you joy, andrew?

00:24:45.972 --> 00:24:47.173
A lot of things bring me joy.

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It's very hard for me not to have a joyous day.

00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:52.121
I'm very, very fortunate.

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I mean I've got great kids, I've got a great partner, I've got a great career.

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I mean I have hard days, I have stressful days, but I mean I mean even in my work, like I like spending a lot of time in this office and I like working because I'm a very mission driven person.

00:25:08.521 --> 00:25:37.102
And I mean even when I'm sending like a hundred emails a day and I'm not getting responses, like I'm I'm chipping away at my mission and at my career and at my goals and even just sending those messages or building more connections or if I'm not getting hired immediately, like building a connection with a studio and building a relationship or building relationships with colleagues and hopping on zoom meetings with them, Like all of that is very fulfilling for me that's awesome I love that.

00:25:37.711 --> 00:25:39.713
Is there a like?

00:25:39.713 --> 00:25:40.655
Uh?

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Well, you know, entrepreneurship is always a journey.

00:25:44.682 --> 00:25:46.571
There's no, there's no end to entrepreneurship.

00:25:46.571 --> 00:25:47.734
There's no top of the hill.

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You know the they say, the the top of one, top of one mountain is the bottom of another.

00:25:51.972 --> 00:25:52.996
Keep climbing, you know.

00:25:52.996 --> 00:25:54.479
You know what I mean.

00:25:54.479 --> 00:25:56.743
Um, but for, like, the podcast is there?

00:25:56.743 --> 00:26:02.539
Or for your career, is there like a, a brand you'd love to work with?

00:26:02.539 --> 00:26:06.413
Uh, is there a guest you'd love to have on the podcast?

00:26:06.413 --> 00:26:07.616
That's like the dream.

00:26:07.616 --> 00:26:10.791
If I can get them, that would be so amazing type thing.

00:26:10.791 --> 00:26:16.824
Or if I could get in a in a whatever spot, that would be amazing that you've got in mind.

00:26:17.750 --> 00:26:19.756
As far as individual spots?

00:26:19.756 --> 00:26:22.061
No, I wouldn't say so.

00:26:22.061 --> 00:26:27.656
I mean, yeah, there are brands that when they come across and like when I book the job, I'm like that's really cool that I booked that.

00:26:27.656 --> 00:26:33.109
And like when I first got into this, I was like I want to work with Nintendo, I want to work with, like, coca-cola, I want to do that.

00:26:33.351 --> 00:26:37.501
But, like the more like those are the two percent wins.

00:26:37.501 --> 00:26:40.020
Even booking a job is the two percent wins.

00:26:40.020 --> 00:26:52.252
Like when you see somebody successful in their career, you're seeing two percent of what they're doing and you're not seeing the uh, the rest of like the 98 percent of the stress and the worry and all the things that took them to get there and all the other jobs you're doing.

00:26:52.252 --> 00:26:56.762
Or when you see a voice actor that's like, hey, they voice this big campaign or they voice this video game.

00:26:56.762 --> 00:27:11.500
You're not seeing, like all of the internal e-learning or explainer videos or corporate stuff or on hold messaging stuff that they also did, like that was, like that built their income so that way they could do the audition to potentially get that other job.

00:27:11.500 --> 00:27:29.162
So I mean and I enjoy that, especially being remote and being in Atlanta Like I'm very good friends with a lot of people in a lot of major studios and they have been very point blank with because I've met them at conferences and they're super sweet people and I love to have coffee with them turnaround, or with how we want to keep things as uniform as possible.

00:27:29.162 --> 00:27:43.693
Unless you're living in LA or New York, you wouldn't be able to work for our specific company and I find those things as eye-opening, like, say, dubbing.

00:27:43.693 --> 00:27:58.715
I've talked to some people at Funimation and they have told me that because of simuldubs and we're doing stuff overnight, even if you built a budget to fly out here, sometimes we send auditions that send notices at 11 o'clock at night saying that you have to be at the studio at eight o'clock in the morning.

00:27:58.715 --> 00:28:00.220
So that would not make sense.

00:28:00.220 --> 00:28:02.795
So I took that as an opportunity.

00:28:02.795 --> 00:28:09.698
Okay, if I cannot get in my foot in the door and these Japanese studios who's doing Korean dubbing?

00:28:09.698 --> 00:28:11.102
Who's doing Polish dubbing?

00:28:11.102 --> 00:28:12.570
Who's doing Chinese dubbing?

00:28:12.932 --> 00:28:20.877
Like, like, I try to find my work anywhere that I can because I love storytelling, like it doesn't need to be a major brand.

00:28:20.877 --> 00:28:34.751
Oftentimes the people that are still bootstrapping their business those are the people that are most passionate about the story that's going into it and then being able to trust you to tell that story is amazing and that's how you get ground floor into stuff.

00:28:34.751 --> 00:28:42.373
Like, when you're working with an indie animation studio, you never know if something they create is going to end up blowing up and people are going to notice you from it.

00:28:42.373 --> 00:28:54.317
I I prefer to be at the base and I can, I prefer to work with people that are just as passionate about the story that they wrote as me.

00:28:54.356 --> 00:29:02.096
Who's telling it, and so so, as far as podcast goes, I want to give the answer of oh, I love all my guests and they're amazing which they are.

00:29:02.096 --> 00:29:03.675
They are wonderful people.

00:29:03.675 --> 00:29:09.830
But if I can get Will Arnett to finally answer my emails, that would be dope, like we.

00:29:09.830 --> 00:29:15.034
They said, they said yes, and then they said not at this time, and then they said yes again and I don't know.

00:29:15.034 --> 00:29:19.943
I don't know where that's going to go, but if I could get Will Arnett on my podcast, that would be a fever dream.

00:29:20.390 --> 00:29:30.076
Well, I mean, if he's, if he's in Atlanta shooting another episode of the Lego Masters, maybe just like Right, yeah, I know, I know a few people that weren't rigging on that show is like that'd be amazing.

00:29:30.096 --> 00:29:51.180
Yeah, no, he's he's a great actor and he and and how he got into this industry was very, very, very similar, where he just took on a bunch of small parts until he could land some big parts and then now a lot of voiceover scripts for males are coming in.

00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:51.520
We want to.

00:29:51.520 --> 00:29:53.674
We'll learn that type and stuff like that.

00:29:53.674 --> 00:30:00.806
But like, how he started his career was literally just finding any production he could get into and finding a way to be an actor.

00:30:00.806 --> 00:30:06.041
Yeah, Because once you can be an actor in front of people, then they can see what you've got.

00:30:11.371 --> 00:30:15.930
Andrew, this is the second segment of the show where we dive a little bit deeper into your mental health journey.

00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.411
You know I'm a firm believer that one of the show where we dive a little bit deeper into your mental health journey.

00:30:18.411 --> 00:30:21.290
You know I'm a firm believer that one of the things depression tells us is that we are alone.

00:30:21.290 --> 00:30:30.192
So the more we can talk about it, the more power it takes away from that, so that people realize they are not alone and that other people go through these same type of struggles.

00:30:30.192 --> 00:30:33.034
Other people deal with anxiety and stuff like that.

00:30:33.034 --> 00:30:36.795
For you, how do you keep the darkness at bay, Peter?

00:30:37.494 --> 00:30:37.694
T Leeson.

00:30:37.694 --> 00:30:57.926
I do a lot of it through finding things that bring purpose to me, because I know there is a difference between medical anxiety versus just the feelings of anxiety, and a lot of the feelings of anxiety I can correlate to different aspects of my business.

00:30:57.926 --> 00:31:07.898
Whenever I feel anxious in my business, that usually means that I have too many choices or too many things going on, and so that's generally when I make a list of all the things going on and build them by priority.

00:31:07.898 --> 00:31:15.185
When I feel depressed in my business, usually I correlate that to like a sense of hopelessness, and so that means I need to find more choices.

00:31:15.185 --> 00:31:33.258
But when I'm personally having down days, honestly a lot of times I'll just contact colleagues or I'll find auditions to do, because then that allows me to immerse myself into a story and that allows me to relive the reason that I love this.

00:31:33.258 --> 00:31:38.178
Or I mean sometimes I'll just spend some time with my kids or I'll spend some time with my partner.

00:31:39.740 --> 00:31:45.578
But I mean I'm very goal driven and so I do listen to a lot of of motivational stuff.

00:31:45.578 --> 00:31:55.457
I have to find that fine line between am I listening to motivational stuff because it's productive or am I listening to motivational stuff because it's distracting me from what I actually need to be doing.

00:31:55.457 --> 00:32:11.654
But, um, but yeah, no, I, I, I try to find other things that either give me peace or give me goals, because, being a mission-driven guy, I try to figure out another thing that will lead to my mission.

00:32:11.654 --> 00:32:44.241
And also, whenever things get hard and I start to feel anxious about it or depressed about it, I try to flip the script on it, because the harder something is for me to do, if I'm doing something here and it's difficult, that also means that a bunch of people did something here and it was difficult and they gave up, which means the more difficult things I can do, no matter what the feelings they put me through, the smaller my pool will be and the greater the fruit it will bear.

00:32:45.778 --> 00:32:52.325
I love that and I love that your mindset is very much about I hear.

00:32:52.325 --> 00:32:53.828
Seeking balance is what I hear.

00:32:53.828 --> 00:33:00.288
You know, if there's something that's you know, if there's something that's too, you're going to rise to the occasion.

00:33:00.288 --> 00:33:01.959
You're going to balance yourself to the occasion.

00:33:01.959 --> 00:33:06.298
If it's something that's feel like it's weighing you down, you're going to do something that's going to bolster you up.

00:33:06.298 --> 00:33:14.784
If you know, if you feel anxious because there's too much, okay then then maybe I need to start subtracting things to find that that balance point.

00:33:14.784 --> 00:33:15.585
I love that.

00:33:16.247 --> 00:33:48.001
Right, and I'm not a work life balance person yeah, and a lot of people are, and a lot of people need that and and I understand that, and that's just not how I'm personally wired and um and and I recognize that, but I'm very again, I'm just very goal-driven, and so if that takes late nights or if that takes more time, I find that I find more peace in that I feel I feel accomplished and it's hard to feel anxious or depressed about something when you feel accomplished.

00:33:48.001 --> 00:33:52.859
Because I stopped looking at the goal as the goal, if that makes sense.

00:33:52.859 --> 00:34:06.582
I stopped, I stopped looking at the end goal as the goal, but what I've started doing is instead looking at my tasks for the day that inevitably, over the law of averages, lead to that goal, and now my tasks for the day are my goal.

00:34:06.582 --> 00:34:22.365
So if I'm able to get even 80% of my to-do list done for that day, I feel accomplished and I feel like I did something that day, because I'm very conscious of my mortality and I'm very aware that every single second counts.

00:34:22.847 --> 00:34:28.445
And where I feel the most depressed is when I look back on my day and I'm like what did I do with myself?

00:34:28.445 --> 00:34:30.097
Like I didn't do anything.

00:34:30.097 --> 00:34:32.864
I don't feel like I I did anything towards my goal.

00:34:32.864 --> 00:34:44.710
I don't feel like I feel like I was given a day where I woke up and was given life and was able to breathe it and I didn't do anything with it, and I hate that feeling.

00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:58.219
And so if I'm able to accomplish something, or I'm able to get through a list, or I'm able to talk to a friend or or spend some time with them or like any number of things, then I feel like I had an accomplished day and that that gives me.

00:34:58.219 --> 00:34:59.340
That gives me purpose.

00:35:00.842 --> 00:35:03.166
I love that, and and and you're right.

00:35:03.166 --> 00:35:07.581
Uh, I read a book um Oliver Berkman.

00:35:07.581 --> 00:35:18.688
It's called 4,000 weeks, uh, time management for mortals, uh, and it's very much that same type of like be aware of the time jet we all live about 4,000 weeks, you know so.

00:35:18.688 --> 00:35:52.762
So, when you're given this time, what are you going to do with it and it's okay to no-transcript and how you approach each day, basically just each day of life.

00:35:54.226 --> 00:35:54.766
Yeah, it's great.

00:35:54.766 --> 00:35:59.025
No, even cold calling, like I sometimes would do cold call.

00:35:59.025 --> 00:36:09.561
I don't do it super often, but I will sometimes do cold calling for my business, and I even had to turn it into a game, because the worst part of cold calling is call no, no, no, we don't want you.

00:36:09.561 --> 00:36:12.141
No, we don't want this thing, we don't want what you have to offer, whatever.

00:36:12.141 --> 00:36:20.164
So I started to make a game out of it where every time somebody's like, my goal was to get 20 consecutive no's in a row.

00:36:20.164 --> 00:36:27.257
So the consecutive no's in a row.

00:36:27.257 --> 00:36:29.621
So the minute somebody says yes, oh darn gotta start all over again I love that.

00:36:30.021 --> 00:36:45.050
I love gamifying stuff yeah, yeah, you know, and that's you know, and that's a great uh technique for people who do have have issues where it's like you know, somebody could easily hit that you know, 19th, no, be like god.

00:36:45.050 --> 00:36:52.148
But but if they weren't wanting to get the 20th, so they could, you know, accomplish something.

00:36:52.148 --> 00:37:03.278
Hey, I got 20 in a row because, either way, you're either gonna start over and feel accomplished, now that you have to start over because you didn't get a no, or you're gonna hit, or you're gonna hit the no and feel accomplished because I had a great.

00:37:03.278 --> 00:37:04.121
You know what I mean.

00:37:04.121 --> 00:37:11.945
Yeah, give yourself a chocolate chip cookie or something else no, that's awesome uh, you know, and that that is that's.

00:37:12.186 --> 00:37:15.599
That's one of those techniques that I think anybody can do.

00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.668
Is you find the, find the fun in it, find the game in it?

00:37:20.155 --> 00:37:26.742
oh yeah, because I don't like to to have the thoughts of I have to do this, I have to do this thing, I have to do this marketing to get jobs I have to do.

00:37:26.742 --> 00:37:28.065
But like I get to do this.

00:37:28.065 --> 00:37:36.518
I chose this, like all of my decisions, at least ever since I moved out of my parents house, like 10, 12 years ago.

00:37:36.518 --> 00:37:41.777
Um, every decision that I've made up until then, for the most part, has been my decision.

00:37:41.777 --> 00:37:50.023
So I have done the things that have led to this and so I chose this and I get to do this and sometimes it's really really cool.

00:37:50.023 --> 00:38:08.114
I mean, granted, a lot of voiceover work like 70 to 80% of it, especially in today's market, is an office job, like it's direct marketing and keeping spreadsheets and doing your taxes and stuff like that but I mean even that part, like I get to do this, and it's still really really cool.

00:38:15.449 --> 00:38:17.213
And I love the get to instead of have to mindset.

00:38:17.213 --> 00:38:19.248
All right, andrew, it's time now for the third segment of the show.

00:38:19.248 --> 00:38:21.130
It's time now for the Fast Five, the Fast Five.

00:38:21.130 --> 00:38:23.806
It's time now for the Fast Five, the Fast Five.

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It's time now for the Fast Five Fast Five.

00:38:25.074 --> 00:38:28.043
Sorry, I'm still working on a theme song there.

00:38:28.043 --> 00:38:31.105
I'll get somebody to write something eventually.

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So if you just need to have some cool questions next time you go networking, check out Poddex.

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It's five questions, no wrong answers.

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So no pressure, no wrong answers.

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I'm going to give you a wrong answer.

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Don't test me.

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You're challenging me 19 wrong answers.

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No, no wrong answers.

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All right, you ready to go?

00:39:10.063 --> 00:39:11.626
Yeah, here we go.

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Question number one you can choose anyone in the world to become friends with.

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Who would you choose?

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Will Arnett, there you go.

00:39:25.594 --> 00:39:28.306
Nice, nice, friends with who would you choose, will or net, there you go nice, that would make getting him on the podcast so much easier.

00:39:28.327 --> 00:39:30.496
Yeah, well, I mean I don't want him on the podcast because he's will or net.

00:39:30.496 --> 00:39:32.585
I find him a very interesting person.

00:39:32.585 --> 00:39:38.579
He's a really good actor and like, like there are traits to him that I really, really admire, so like it's, it's switched.

00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:39.460
yeah, no, I no.

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I love that.

00:39:39.940 --> 00:39:40.621
I love that, though.

00:39:40.621 --> 00:39:42.123
That's a great answer, all right.

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Question number two what is your greatest fear and how do you manage that fear?

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Public speaking.

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I will let you know when I figure out how to manage it.

00:39:52.637 --> 00:39:54.461
Wow.

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Weirdly enough.

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Yeah, every time I get in on stage in front of people or I talk in front of a large crowd, like I mean zoom meetings and doing directed sessions and even recording in studio, I haven't had that problem.

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But when I am the center of knowledge if that makes sense, like if I am, if I am where the attention is due to an expectation, I get this ringing in my ear and my legs start shaking and I can't figure out why.

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Like I mean inside I'll be like I'm okay.

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Why do I feel weird and why is my body doing this?

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But like my body just has a reaction and I still can't figure out how to get past it.

00:40:31.516 --> 00:40:39.690
Just maybe find like an improv class or something that gets you on a stage where you're having to rely on your own words with other people in front of people.

00:40:39.795 --> 00:40:43.170
Just just a thought, you know maybe with other people in front of people.

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Just just a thought, you know maybe, but then when I become friends with them, it won't be an issue, like it's always strangers, well, no, well, the audience is always a stranger, so right, that's true, the audience is always a stranger um but yeah but anyway, just a thought.

00:40:53.157 --> 00:41:02.407
you know, I know there's like dad's garage is a great improv theater up there in the atlanta area and stuff like that and they have, you know, classes that you could even just you know, check out and see.

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Just a thought, not trying to change your life or anything.

00:41:05.114 --> 00:41:08.023
I mean, I've been looking for an improv troupe around Atlanta anyway, so thank you for that.

00:41:08.143 --> 00:41:09.806
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely All right.

00:41:09.806 --> 00:41:16.882
Question number three what makes you lose track of time?

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Chocolate-covered Reese's pretzels.

00:41:20.420 --> 00:41:37.742
Ooh, you just, I just go to town on the bag man or um, or second answer those weird like those weird um, malicious compliance reddit stories oh yeah like where they're.

00:41:37.762 --> 00:41:40.027
like, okay, boss, well, you told me to do it this way.

00:41:40.027 --> 00:41:42.398
Fine, I'll do it the exact way that you wanted me to.

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And then then, like the, the company crashes and burns.

00:41:44.844 --> 00:41:52.936
Like I love those, like I mean, they don't serve me, they don't benefit me in any way, but like I just, I just I can't get enough of those and I don't know why.

00:41:54.958 --> 00:41:55.699
That is good though.

00:41:55.739 --> 00:41:58.563
That is good, maybe cause, maybe cause I used to work for corporate America.

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I'm like you're a bird of gold.

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There's a little part of you inside.

00:42:02.126 --> 00:42:04.849
You know, I think, when you've it's, it's, uh, what is it?

00:42:04.849 --> 00:42:05.510
Shared trauma.

00:42:05.510 --> 00:42:13.135
You know when you we all kind of you know, rally around the shared trauma we had because of corporate America at some point.

00:42:13.135 --> 00:42:21.952
Uh, you know, or or you know if you worked at a fast food restaurant or Walmart or if you ever worked retail pretty much any retail ever.

00:42:21.952 --> 00:42:23.675
It's all shared trauma.

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That is all that is.

00:42:24.998 --> 00:42:26.302
I love that.

00:42:26.302 --> 00:42:34.608
Question number four where is one place you hope to visit before you die?

00:42:36.217 --> 00:42:45.630
oh, now I have to think the Netherlands, the Netherlands.

00:42:45.630 --> 00:42:56.003
I have two friends in the Netherlands and they post pictures of the food and the culture and the mountains and it looks gorgeous.

00:42:56.003 --> 00:42:59.083
Yeah, and I would love to experience that culture.

00:42:59.083 --> 00:43:00.519
It looks beautiful.

00:43:00.721 --> 00:43:03.940
Yeah, yeah, go visit Santa Claus and just do the whole nine Right.

00:43:03.940 --> 00:43:04.300
That'd be amazing.

00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:04.782
It looks beautiful.

00:43:04.782 --> 00:43:06.284
Yeah, yeah, go visit Santa Claus and, like just do the whole nine Right.

00:43:06.284 --> 00:43:06.684
That'd be amazing.

00:43:06.684 --> 00:43:06.925
I love that.

00:43:06.925 --> 00:43:07.887
The Netherlands would be great.

00:43:07.887 --> 00:43:09.110
Yeah, I love that.

00:43:09.110 --> 00:43:09.871
It's funny.

00:43:09.871 --> 00:43:12.818
I have a friend who's actually on vacation in the Netherlands.

00:43:12.818 --> 00:43:14.164
I have a voice actor friend.

00:43:14.394 --> 00:43:15.842
Anton Gill.

00:43:15.842 --> 00:43:20.762
He is on vacation up around that area for a couple of weeks, so that's really cool.

00:43:20.762 --> 00:43:22.045
Yeah, I keep telling him.

00:43:22.045 --> 00:43:22.827
I was like send me pictures.

00:43:22.827 --> 00:43:24.822
He's like I'm making the pictures in my head.

00:43:24.822 --> 00:43:26.481
I'm not really doing it with my phone.

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I was like all right you should have strapped a GoPro to his head before you left Enjoy then enjoy your vacation.

00:43:33.021 --> 00:43:34.405
All right.

00:43:34.405 --> 00:43:42.023
Question number five what do you love to do for others?

00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:48.590
What do you love to do for others?

00:43:48.590 --> 00:43:50.896
Problem solved I like to problem solve for others.

00:43:50.896 --> 00:43:56.503
Very, very often I have a gaggle of really really close friends in the industry.

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Like I mean, I have a lot of friends that I've made over the years in the voiceover industry or in just friends in general.

00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:08.681
But you know, you know adult life, like friends come and go and whatever.

00:44:08.681 --> 00:44:17.717
So I still have like a close group of people and a majority of them are from the voiceover industry, and we very, very often, like whenever we are coming across problems, we will consult with each other Like, hey, how are you addressing that?

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And not just like like physical problems but mental problems too, where we'll sit and be like, hey, do you have time for a call?

00:44:24.349 --> 00:44:27.164
Really quick, I'm really going through it right now and I could use some help.

00:44:27.164 --> 00:44:36.936
And those are always incredibly fruitful and very, very filling and great, like I love having those powwows.

00:44:37.275 --> 00:44:48.242
Yeah, there's something special about being part of a sounding board or somebody that just needs someone to know that you're listening and that you're invested, to kind of help them through.

00:44:48.242 --> 00:44:50.804
It's like you know, do you need me to?

00:44:50.804 --> 00:44:52.025
Actually, you know, I've said this to my wife before.

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It's like when she comes to me with a problem, it's like do you want me to fix the problem or do you want me to feel the problem, because there's two different things and you may need one?

00:44:57.409 --> 00:45:09.534
It's like you don't want me to fix the problem or do you want me to feel the problem Because, because there's two different things and you may need one, it's like you don't want me to come up with a solution, you just need me to hear that you have a problem, right, but?

00:45:09.534 --> 00:45:14.661
But if you want me to hear that you have a problem and help you figure out a way to solve it, then we can do that too.

00:45:14.661 --> 00:45:15.800
I'm here for either of that.

00:45:24.034 --> 00:45:27.532
So problem solving because I love, like I, I like being resourceful, like I love being resourceful, like, oh, this thing has been troubling you for the past three months.

00:45:27.532 --> 00:45:28.114
Well, what do you know I have?

00:45:28.114 --> 00:45:29.016
I have just the fix.

00:45:29.016 --> 00:45:32.724
Like dr feelgood, like right, I've got the.

00:45:32.764 --> 00:45:44.237
I've got this cable that I've been keeping for like five moves and it's been it's 20 years old, but it's the exact adapter that you need, so they don't fix whatever you got going on right in that box of cables that you keep.

00:45:44.237 --> 00:45:45.199
No, I love that.

00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:45.760
That's great.

00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.706
Well, andrew, that's question number five.

00:45:48.706 --> 00:45:51.099
That is the fast five and that is the show.

00:45:51.099 --> 00:45:54.916
Thank you so much for joining me today thanks for having me on, man.

00:45:54.936 --> 00:45:56.382
This was a blast, this was fun.

00:45:56.523 --> 00:46:05.661
Yeah, I really, really do appreciate it and hopefully I will be able to join your, your cadre of of friends now and uh, as we go through this voiceover thing.

00:46:05.661 --> 00:46:09.458
But if people want to keep up with you, what's the best way they could do that?

00:46:10.820 --> 00:46:18.487
Um andrewdmorrison.com or the voiceover coffee shop is at vocoffeeshop.com or anywhere you can get podcasts, including on YouTube.

00:46:18.795 --> 00:46:19.657
Awesome, awesome.

00:46:19.657 --> 00:46:23.842
So I'll make sure to put those links in the show notes so that folks can find you directly.

00:46:23.842 --> 00:46:30.820
And uh, yeah, if, if you haven't listened to the voice over coffee shop yet, please take a listen.

00:46:30.820 --> 00:46:32.244
It is great conversations.

00:46:32.244 --> 00:46:36.378
Very similar, very similar to to what we do here on Chewing the Fat.

00:46:36.378 --> 00:46:40.186
Uh, but it's real people, real conversations.

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Uh.

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And if you've not, if you have listened and you've not given Andrew a five-star rating yet, on whatever platform you listen to, please do that.

00:46:47.349 --> 00:46:58.315
Write him a review as well on Apple Podcasts, because let me tell you, as a podcaster, that means so much to us and we see those emails come through that we've gotten either a new rating or a new review on the podcast.

00:46:58.315 --> 00:46:59.458
So please do that for Andrew.

00:46:59.458 --> 00:47:00.382
I would appreciate it.

00:47:00.382 --> 00:47:01.405
You're going to be blessed, man.

00:47:02.994 --> 00:47:04.338
Thank you, I love you.

00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:09.181
I wish you nothing but success in everything that you've got going on, and I know we'll talk again soon.

00:47:10.043 --> 00:47:10.726
Yeah, absolutely.

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